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Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
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Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
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Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
You make it so easy,no-one can resist! ---bil
"I dream of a world where I can buy alcohol,tobacco and firearms from the same drive-up window,and use them all on the way home from work!" Dogbert
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
Well I tried the search engine but I wasn`t trying to find out if the germans made transit chests or not but the plans with measurements to make a transit chest, and that my friend I could not find on this forum..DARIVS ARCHITECTVS wrote:You tell'em Bergflak. I get tired of rehashing the old topics when some people don't even try the search engine.
And I also found this on ww.germanmilitaria.co.uk :
http://www.germanmilitaria.co.uk/pics/mg34bx1copy.jpg
http://www.germanmilitaria.co.uk/pics/box342copy.jpg
"MG34 wooden transit box
With several compartments inside to hold all the basic equipment that goes with the MG34. It was made from a very strong wood to keep everything together and store the MG34 safe when transporting the MG"
No wonder some people though there was a german MG34 transit chest
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
It has the proyuguese markings,but it is a nice picture,if you are capable of building the box,you should be capable of using this picture and your 34 to make a duplicate. ---bil
"I dream of a world where I can buy alcohol,tobacco and firearms from the same drive-up window,and use them all on the way home from work!" Dogbert
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
Bil wrote:It has the proyuguese markings,but it is a nice picture,if you are capable of building the box,you should be capable of using this picture and your 34 to make a duplicate. ---bil
I've been collecting photos of the Portugese boxes with exactly the same idea. This photo is a welcome addition. Now it is probably time to get on with it.
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
Oh,man-i shouldn't try to type before the meds kick in! That doesn't even look like a mis-spelling-thats just wrong![ ]Space for DA to add insult! ---bil
"I dream of a world where I can buy alcohol,tobacco and firearms from the same drive-up window,and use them all on the way home from work!" Dogbert
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
Sturmgewehr83 wrote:
Well I tried the search engine but I wasn`t trying to find out if the germans made transit chests or not but the plans with measurements to make a transit chest, and that my friend I could not find on this forum..
And I also found this on www.germanmilitaria.co.uk :
http://www.germanmilitaria.co.uk/pics/mg34bx1copy.jpg
http://www.germanmilitaria.co.uk/pics/box342copy.jpg
"MG34 wooden transit box
With several compartments inside to hold all the basic equipment that goes with the MG34. It was made from a very strong wood to keep everything together and store the MG34 safe when transporting the MG"
No wonder some people though there was a german MG34 transit chest
Do NOT believe everything you find on the net to be real or correct. The link above is a private collector in the UK. Although he has a few nice items, he has listed almost every single Yugo-made MG34 accessory ever made/built and presented it as German WW2! That homepage is a snake pit for the unexperienced collector!
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
You mean that some of the stuff on the internet is NOT true???? Well,this changes everything! I am going to have to think things through all over-what a developement! The picture on that site is ofviously a PORTUGUESE box,but it IS for a 34,and would be as accurate as any other you could come up with.At least you could say that it might be what the Germans would have built,if they had built any.So much for the internet! ---bil
"I dream of a world where I can buy alcohol,tobacco and firearms from the same drive-up window,and use them all on the way home from work!" Dogbert
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
Bil wrote:You mean that some of the stuff on the internet is NOT true???? Well,this changes everything! I am going to have to think things through all over-what a developement! The picture on that site is ofviously a PORTUGUESE box,but it IS for a 34,and would be as accurate as any other you could come up with.At least you could say that it might be what the Germans would have built,if they had built any.So much for the internet! ---bil
Bil! At this point I must stress that everything I say/write/brag about etc is of course 110% corect/true. The comment above is valid towards what everybody ELSE is writing
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
BRP sells their transit boxes for $295. Or just get Reidar to send you an original one
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
That one hurt, well below the belt, Ed!
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
I have found a real true German Transit chest and the correct diminions and will be geting the correct hardware from Germany in about a week.
Sara
Sara
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
transitchest wrote:I have found a real true German Transit chest and the correct diminions and will be geting the correct hardware from Germany in about a week.
Sara
GREAT NEWS!
We have all been waiting for the breakthrough! All we need now are pictures of the box!
And I assume you have found a "real true German Transit chest" for the Mg34 ?
I have plenty of German WW2 transit chests from mortar to pistol (and one I suspect is for bananas ), but so far the chicken-teeth rare MG34 transit box has gotten away!
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
That would be good.I once got a transit chest for eggs,I thought it was original German,but it turned out to be Norwegian,slightly post-war.But it is still a nice addition to my collection. ---bil
"I dream of a world where I can buy alcohol,tobacco and firearms from the same drive-up window,and use them all on the way home from work!" Dogbert
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
[I made a Friend that was a former German Calvary Soldier durring the Second War, he has helped me with the correct MG34 Transit Chest and found a source for the Harware for me in Germany. The original Transit Chest Held the MG34 with the Butt stock attached, One E tin (ammo Can) , double or single barrel carrier and a space for a gunners kit. It was also to my suprise that the transit chest were not marked with what the contents held (example MG34) as he said only the Manufatures code marks and division marks were present with a lot of other stamping . The color was German Gray, (close colr match elephant gray). I am sharing you my first picture of a chest I built with a modification to hold a saddle drum instead of where the barrel carrier should have been. (The hinges and hardware are not correct on this chest)
Sara
MG34transitchest.com
Sara
MG34transitchest.com
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
Very nice! ---bil
"I dream of a world where I can buy alcohol,tobacco and firearms from the same drive-up window,and use them all on the way home from work!" Dogbert
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
So this means that original german made MG34 transit chests did exist after all? I`m a little confused here..transitchest wrote:[I made a Friend that was a former German Calvary Soldier durring the Second War, he has helped me with the correct MG34 Transit Chest and found a source for the Harware for me in Germany. The original Transit Chest Held the MG34 with the Butt stock attached, One E tin (ammo Can) , double or single barrel carrier and a space for a gunners kit.
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
Weeeeel, I wouldn't bring out the baloons and uncork the champagne just yet.....Sturmgewehr83 wrote: So this means that original german made MG34 transit chests did exist after all? I`m a little confused here..
So far, "Transitchest" has made himself a nice chest based upon the memory of a friend. As "conclusive evidence" I am afraid that we have come no further!
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
......notice....."transitchest" has not posted a photo of an "original" MG34 Transit-Chest........just a photo of a reproduction.
On a side-note........you still have to realize that evn though a shipping-crate/storage-crate had to have been made for shipping numbers of MG34 and MG42 Machineguns during WWII........even these will be made differently to hold those items issued with the weapon "at the time of manufacture and shipping"......."and" at times without "deviders" on the insides for accessories and/or spare-barrel(s).
An example of this would be early MG34s may have been shipped with more spare-barrels than later manufactured MG34s as we are told that initially, MG34s were shipped with a total of 4 Barrel-Assemblies (1 in the gun and 3-spare-barrel-assemblies. This would require more room in the box...........
Later, they were not shipped with all of the earlier accessories.....and again, would be a different-styles for the MG34 standard MG ......vs. .....the MG34 "Tanker" model....vs...... the MG42.
Question:
Has anyone been able to come up with any of the photos from that old issue of either "Machinegun-Times" or early "Small-Arms-Review" where they visited old Yugoslavia and photographed the boxes full of new WWII German MP-44s.......and new WWI German MG42s in crates (?).
Guys, in all reality, there may not be any "original" MG34 or MG42 shipping/storage-crates to get photographs of.
The best that anyone may be able to do is to go by the guidelines of what is available in photos.........use the correct period "hard-ware" (hinges, metal-corners, latches, etc.) like those used on K98 crates and other WWII German Crates that have survived..........and make your own crate.
Then when you design your crate........make it "believeable" in that it would have been shipped with at least one spare-barrel-assembly in carrier (remember head-space)........and maybe an earlier example would have a Gunners-pouch for the spare-bolt/AA-Sight/Tools........but not much more. A carry-sling would have been either thrown into the crate, or attached to the gun. Ammo-Cans were used/issued in bulk........assault-drums w/carriers and ammo-cans would have been accessory items ordered separately.......as would Belt-loading-machines.
When you look at the "Portugese-contract-MG34-Crates".....remember that that was a separate order and may have been ordered with storage-crate (not shipping-crates) with such items as Booster-Soaking-Cans, and/or additional parts/accessories as Portugal was not manufactureing the MG34. With that in mind......did the Germans make the crates (?)....or did Portugal make them after receiving the shipment of MG34s from Germany (?).
Last.....would the WWII German crates be painted (?).......if you look at K98 rifle-crates that didn't go to thrid-world-countries.......and WWII German ammo-crates/wooden-boxes........I don't recall seeing any German crates that were painted green or tan....just left as bare-wood to age-brown. Big Nazi-Eagles (?). .......mabe something smaller and a short stencil of what is in the crate/Serial-Number/maybe a date (?)....all in WWII German-style and language.....and factory-"coded" correctly when required.
Regards, RichardS in MI.
Blanksguy2001@chartermi.net
On a side-note........you still have to realize that evn though a shipping-crate/storage-crate had to have been made for shipping numbers of MG34 and MG42 Machineguns during WWII........even these will be made differently to hold those items issued with the weapon "at the time of manufacture and shipping"......."and" at times without "deviders" on the insides for accessories and/or spare-barrel(s).
An example of this would be early MG34s may have been shipped with more spare-barrels than later manufactured MG34s as we are told that initially, MG34s were shipped with a total of 4 Barrel-Assemblies (1 in the gun and 3-spare-barrel-assemblies. This would require more room in the box...........
Later, they were not shipped with all of the earlier accessories.....and again, would be a different-styles for the MG34 standard MG ......vs. .....the MG34 "Tanker" model....vs...... the MG42.
Question:
Has anyone been able to come up with any of the photos from that old issue of either "Machinegun-Times" or early "Small-Arms-Review" where they visited old Yugoslavia and photographed the boxes full of new WWII German MP-44s.......and new WWI German MG42s in crates (?).
Guys, in all reality, there may not be any "original" MG34 or MG42 shipping/storage-crates to get photographs of.
The best that anyone may be able to do is to go by the guidelines of what is available in photos.........use the correct period "hard-ware" (hinges, metal-corners, latches, etc.) like those used on K98 crates and other WWII German Crates that have survived..........and make your own crate.
Then when you design your crate........make it "believeable" in that it would have been shipped with at least one spare-barrel-assembly in carrier (remember head-space)........and maybe an earlier example would have a Gunners-pouch for the spare-bolt/AA-Sight/Tools........but not much more. A carry-sling would have been either thrown into the crate, or attached to the gun. Ammo-Cans were used/issued in bulk........assault-drums w/carriers and ammo-cans would have been accessory items ordered separately.......as would Belt-loading-machines.
When you look at the "Portugese-contract-MG34-Crates".....remember that that was a separate order and may have been ordered with storage-crate (not shipping-crates) with such items as Booster-Soaking-Cans, and/or additional parts/accessories as Portugal was not manufactureing the MG34. With that in mind......did the Germans make the crates (?)....or did Portugal make them after receiving the shipment of MG34s from Germany (?).
Last.....would the WWII German crates be painted (?).......if you look at K98 rifle-crates that didn't go to thrid-world-countries.......and WWII German ammo-crates/wooden-boxes........I don't recall seeing any German crates that were painted green or tan....just left as bare-wood to age-brown. Big Nazi-Eagles (?). .......mabe something smaller and a short stencil of what is in the crate/Serial-Number/maybe a date (?)....all in WWII German-style and language.....and factory-"coded" correctly when required.
Regards, RichardS in MI.
Blanksguy2001@chartermi.net
Re: Any blueprints out there for making a MG34 transit chest?
nothing like a really short post