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Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:46 pm
by johnb593
42rocker wrote:Make sure that the box that you are buying is 8mm. Talk to them about it as a lot of companies have not problem selling .308 boxes as German boxes for the mg42.
Keep up the good work and planning.

Later 42rocker
Thanks! I'll be sure and check before buying. One question, I suppose all the WW II MG42/MG34's were 7.62mm. I'm guessing the 7.92 (8mm) was post war Yugoslavian. Correct? (The box I have is a post-war German army one a friend sent me from England a while back. Nice for my collection but unsat for the M53 program. :D )

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:17 pm
by 42rocker
German MG34 & MG42 were 8mm 7.92. After the war several countries converted some of them to .308 and other sizes.

Later 42rocker

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:38 am
by johnb593
42rocker wrote:German MG34 & MG42 were 8mm 7.92. After the war several countries converted some of them to .308 and other sizes.

Later 42rocker
I see. I just had it backasswards then.

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:34 pm
by johnb593
Just received my new grips from RTG.
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Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:09 pm
by johnb593
Since the ammo can I have apparently is for 7.62 and will not fit the 7.92 ammo I have, I ordered a can from MG34/Allegheny Arsenal for only $15.00. Got to have the right stuff! LOL :D

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:10 pm
by johnb593
Making some progress on the front shroud piece.
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Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:33 pm
by roadrunner
That looks great John. Glad you got access to a mill. Really handy on this build. Keep up the good work. RR, :D

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:54 pm
by johnb593
roadrunner wrote:That looks great John. Glad you got access to a mill. Really handy on this build. Keep up the good work. RR, :D
Thanks RR. The receiver insides, etc is gonna be a whole 'nuther thing I'm afraid.....we'll see!

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:30 am
by 42rocker
Your work looks good. Good Luck on the next stage of welding. Remember small welds.

Later 42rocker

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:14 pm
by johnb593
Little problem:
After I inserted the barrel guide bushing and nozzle and screwed on the recoil booster/flash hider I am unable to get the barrel to go all the way into the shroud. Pictures:
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The 1st picture above shows how far in it will go before stopping. I've jiggled and pushed but I certainly don't want to screw it up in any way so I'm asking if any of you guys have an idea as to what's happening.

Thanks!!!

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:16 pm
by robertmcw
Are all four 'ears' on the guide bushing are lined up with the receiver? It is supposed to glide in and out.

Robert

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:25 pm
by 42rocker
The guide bushing is off and not going through the barrel bushing far enough. This could be happening -- 1st your guide bushing is off by 90 degrees turn it to let the guide busing through. See how far out the guide bushing sticks out in the following.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8098

Later 42rocker

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:43 pm
by johnb593
Okay, I'll work on that. The guide bushing didn't glide in and out and was a bit difficult to get in. I'll pull it, clean it real good (and the inside of the barrel sleeve too where it's supposed to slide thru the 4 grooves). Fingers crossed.

Thanks guys!

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:59 pm
by johnb593
Got it! All I really needed to do was rotate it until the correct alignment was achieved and it slid right in. I didn't want to try to force it as I knew that was the wrong move! I appreciate the help from y'all!

John

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:26 pm
by 42rocker
Well John it goes like this. I just listed your thread pages 7 - 9 as a great way to rebuild the front barrel shroud on the following thread

http://mg42.us/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12689

So could not allow you to be wrong no matter what it took. You folks did a nice job on that and for that to happen was sad.

So lets see another pic of the guide bushing sticking out where it should be.

Later 42rocker

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:39 pm
by Der Alder
Though it wasn't the case here, folks should also be aware that carbon can build up in these areas and cause fit problems if not cleaned properly. Sometimes burrs on the bushing lugs and channels can make the bushing tight as well.

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:39 pm
by johnb593
Here it is after some better cleaning and careful fitting.
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Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:45 pm
by johnb593
As it is as of today 9/5/13:
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Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:44 pm
by johnb593
Some really good info there rocker. Thanks for putting it together.

Re: Looking for demilitarized MG42

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:37 pm
by johnb593
Well, I'm preparing to measure and mark all the cuts, etc for my BRP receiver. Got my blue layout fluid and metal scriber ready but am waiting for my digital calipers to get here (later this week). The links 42rocker provided here and the info on Brian's web site will be my guide. Fingers crossed there will be no screwups! :D