MG42 old style barrel ???

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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by TactAdv » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:48 am

fab wrote:that's means the early MG42 barrel were dated as were the MG34 ones
so how is it possible to have a undated old patent one ???
and how explain a 1940 dated MG42 barrel ???

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Not hard at all to understand, you're just missing an important point about the barrels. You're confusing the dates on the TUBES as being directly related to the GUN type; they aren't. Or at least, once the "gun" in question was no longer ONLY the MG-34.

ALL MG-39/41 "barrels" and a huge number of early MG-42 "barrels" were made from barrel TUBES that originally started life as MG-34 barrels. They re-contoured and profiled the TUBE as needed, attached a new style extension on and ran them in the new design guns. It's really that simple.

I showed in an earlier thread, in exacting detail the proof of this practice. I showed a tube made for a MG-34 that is now attached to an MG-39/41 extension, contoured and mated for THAT gun. Yet, the TUBE bears numerous markings, proofs, manufacturer, and subcontractor markings that ONLY existed at the time of early MG-34 production. Simply put, you need to understand that barrel TUBES were considered only a COMPONENT part of the whole barrel assembly and were treated as such.....used where and when needed.
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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by JBaum » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:42 am

Tom is correct. I've even seen MG34 barrel proofs marked on the barrel of a 98k. They were used for what was needed at the time, without regard to the original intentions of manufacture.
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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by fab » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:49 pm

ok....

Markings on MG34 barrels are at 4 inch from the end of the barrel extention where the barrel is 1.034" diameter.
on the MG42 ones , markings are at 6.5 inch where the barrel is 0.975" diameter

so how a MG42 barrel made from a MG34 one could keep the MG34 barrel markings???

Please explain me that... :mrgreen:

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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by JBaum » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:27 pm

When the MG34 barrel is converted into an MG42 barrel: Because the MG34 barrel is already marked, they did not mark it a second time.

Barrels that were made for the MG42 were marked in a different place than barrels made for the MG34 that were converted to use for the MG42.

The location of two different markings on two different barrels have nothing to do with each other. In the early days of what became the MG42, the exact barrel diameter at the spot where the proofs are was not important. Once the barrel is proofed, it would likely damage the lathe tools if they tried to make it just a little smaller, so they did not worry about 0.030 of an inch there. The could easily make up the weight difference elsewhere.
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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by Blanksguy » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:15 pm

TactAdv,
Sir, is there any possibility of having you "re-post" that early MG42 (MG39/41) Barrel and Barrel-Extension photos....(?).

This will really help this "thread" on this subject.

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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by JBaum » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:21 pm

Blanksguy: Tom (tactadv) hasn't been on here since Aug. 2017. I haven't seen or talked to him in over 4 years. Don't know what happened to him.
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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by Blanksguy » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:14 pm

JBaum,
Possibly 42rocker (or another Board-Member might have some (or all) of this MG39/41 Barrel and Barrel-Extension photos (?).

I also sent a guy your way (today) looking for an MG42 "gauge".

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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by Emerald » Fri May 01, 2020 8:13 am

I have one of these barrels.
I will post pics once i do 8 more post ;)

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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by Marloutre » Fri May 01, 2020 3:27 pm

Emerald wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 8:13 am
I have one of these barrels.
I will post pics once i do 8 more post ;)
you don't need to wait to have 10 posts to edit a photo
I would like to seen this barrel ASAP :mrgreen:

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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by Emerald » Sat May 02, 2020 11:36 am

So Marloutre I just went to my photobucket which i have not used in a long time and its all locked up and they want money now. Is there any other way to upload pics?

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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by JBaum » Sat May 02, 2020 12:07 pm

Yes you can upload a picture, or several if you like. Start a new message, go to the bottom of the message where it says Save Draft, Preview, Save, and look to the left where it says Options, ATTACHMENTS. Click on Attachments and follow the directions.

People used to put stuff on Photobucket all the time, and once they started wanting money, a lot of pictures were lost. Save them directly on this board and you don't have to pay for Photobucket.
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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by Emerald » Sun May 03, 2020 10:40 am

Here are a couple pics of the one i have left. This one has had the extension replaced as it is the newer style extension. I had an unissued Maget one early on but traded it off for a crappy aa extension way back when. I have regretted it ever since.
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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by Blanksguy » Sun May 03, 2020 8:33 pm

Emerald,
Could you post a clear photo of the date-stamped on that early MG42 Barrel.....or any other markings on it (?).

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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by Marloutre » Mon May 04, 2020 2:50 pm

whaaaa bnz... must be very scare !
I will have bet on a "cra"....
is there a S/N on the barrel?

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Re: MG42 old style barrel ???

Post by Emerald » Wed May 06, 2020 7:19 pm

Pretty much what you see is it. It is not numbered but Steyr didn't seem to number parts like the other companies.
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