I'm a newbe to the world of belt feeders and am starting off with an 80% Cold Steel Receiver. My first question (of many) is, has anyone used this receiver in a build ? I have been building flinters (black powder) for years, and have a bit of machining experence building high end bolt guns. However as I said, I'm as green as they come in the field of self feeders.Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
Welcome! There is a thread ,many pages,on a build using the CS receiver.I am still figuring out the link thing,but check the mg42 build section. ---bil
"I dream of a world where I can buy alcohol,tobacco and firearms from the same drive-up window,and use them all on the way home from work!" Dogbert
Bil, to add a link 1) select the topic and when looking at it go up and copy the address (the http://....thing). 2) go to your reply and paste the address in it. I i use the right click for the copy paste stuff.
I don't remember these pics of your gun. The picture of the gun outside on the bench is really nice.
That's a beautiful gun. Congrats on such a nice, nice build!
GeeDeeEmm
" The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government . . . . When the people fear their government there is tyranny, when the government fear the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson
and if im not mistaken, this is a gen 1 cold steel build right? from what i understand the latter receivers look like theyve been drug behind a semi for about two years and then run over with an abrams tank. I was starting to think that the cold steel receivers were the way to go even if there was an large amount of cutting and machining work to do. If they were straight i would get one. Any input out there?
i talked to them today and im awaiting pics of a current receiver. Im fixing to order two of them. god i hope they turn out allright. Im also told that they come with a diagram of where to put the holes and such. I just cant see having to put all that work into a wla receiver. Not to mention the fact that they dont even give you any hints on how to build the damned thing up
Oooh, are if CS's receivers are good, AND they show you where to do all the drilling and such, along with being $350, i just might have to choose them.
One big question though, are they regulated as a receiver sent to a ffl, or can they just be shipped in the mail to me? As i think it gets messier, when i try to bring "firearms" across the border. It would have to go via special transport, which would end up costing me more ...
spoke to them today brother and they do not require an ffl to send it to you. I am told that 80%'ers do not require that. I am also looking to go that way because of the template it supposedly comes with
redrivertactical wrote:spoke to them today brother and they do not require an ffl to send it to you. I am told that 80%'ers do not require that. I am also looking to go that way because of the template it supposedly comes with
, now to muster up some cash ...
At least i know a source to buy them from, when i am ready anyways.
Hello again,
Thanks for all the replys and info, It will be GREAT help! .Great photos and link Bolex thanks. Just for info,redrivertatical, the plans are included in the price. Not too bad for clarity and measurements(from a machinists point). I will try too post some photos before I start milling. Thanks again guys for the help.
Mine is a 2nd gen after the punch and dies were stolen. Here's some of the things to watch for.
The right side has a bow towards the rear. This is in Bolex's thread on page 11. Rahatlakhoom's wasn't as bad as mine but still there. I fixed that by cutting and rewelding the rear right side and lower section. Don't know how that will effect the cocking handle as I'm not that far along yet.
The left side of the receiver is way lower than the right at the camming piece. It fits good on the sides and pretty well on the bottom. I'll weld some pads on top like the orginals to get the final fit.
Now mine is from last year and CS may have all of the problems ironed out by now. I have not heard anyone who bought one lately to see if they are different. Just be ready that you may have to do a little more work with the CS.
i talked with them at length on monday. I was told that the receivers are checked to ensure that the inside dimensions are historically accurate. Now as for how serious that is im not sure. I was told that the receivers are checked for dimensions multiple times. I specifically addressed the warpage that was shown on this website and i was told that the receivers are a "little tight" now if anything and may require some honing of the interior to ensure proper fitting but they will "allegedly" be of proper dimensions and specifications. They are extremely nice people and made a point to call me back after business hours to address any concerns. I wish someone would get one in rather quickly and we could see if this is indeed true. I still feel that the cold steel receivers are the best available options right now considering price and the inclusion of the diagram on how to assemble it. The gentleman that i talked to told me that all that would be needed was a good die grinder and a rotary cutter to handle the bulk of the remaining work. I was also told that they made these to mock up to an m53 kit, so it should butt right up to the available kits right now. The gentleman also told me that through trial and error they have found that assembling the rear portion and front shroud portion in a "tongue and groove" pattern added immensely to the tensile strength of the receiver. I have never even heard of this before but i sure as hell was surprised to hear it. I thought for sure these things were made of steel and not Cedar. . Im sure its possible but ive never heard of it
The drawing for the machining from Coldsteel that I got was ok but I also used some information from this site to finish some of the missing dimensions. Mine was a first generation receiver.
Mine is up and running now but you had better be ready! The wait for the coldsteel seems to take forever. If you keep in mind that you are getting a piece of metal that (you) will be turning into a firearm, then you will not be dissapointed. If you think that all you will have to do is drill some holes and get out the drimmel for a few small cuts. You will be in for a rude awakining. My biggest and most time consuming part of the build was the charging handle area. The (bumps) that are very well formed on the WLA and RTG recievers and only require milling a slot through, are actually some ground down lumps on the coldsteel. I welded small pieces of steel to the (tops) of the bumps and then used an cutoff wheel to form the slot. Also because of the charging handle slot angled slightly upward toward the center of the reciever section, lots of inside filling to get the rail to go in. It can be done! Mine works! But just be prepared! In all honesty I wish I had gotten a ffl rear section for gun, sold it for $$$$ then built another off the profits! = free gun!
Back again.took some photos of the receiver after I started hacking on it (sorry!! ) Hope these help a little. I do have a question reguarding the grip stick mounting bracket: Can anyone give me the size of the opening that recuperator tabs fits into? the drawings I received are becoming more vauge as I progress.
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