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SOLD OUT: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:21 am
by wiselitearms
Some time back I stated that until Wise Lite Arms (WLA) could sell the semi-auto Yugoslavian M53/MG42 receivers I would not post any further information concerning them.
Well, I am happy to post that we can now offer these for sale. This will be a limited offering. Only one can be sold per customer. We are also not certain for how long we will be allowed to sell these receiver sections.
As you know this is the key component of a firearm that we manufacture.
WLA will not include any detailed instructions describing the assembly or manufacture of this firearm. We barely had time to write up this advert!
We cannot share the approval letter.

Now here is what we are offering for purchase. This is a complete, semi-auto receiver rear section. It will have to be transferred to a FFL holder/licensed firearm dealer.
Please check your State, County and local laws before ordering.
No un-finished receivers will be offered for sale. This receiver section is to be used only in the semi-auto build of a Yugo M53/MG42 part set that included the front barrel jacket. This receiver section will mate to that front barrel jacket right behind the rear sight mount, thus completing the full length of the firearm. The WLA receiver section is a true semi-auto design and has the blocking features installed. As per the BATFE FTB approval a full auto bolt will NOT fit into this receiver. The only bolt that will fit is one that has been specifically modified for semi-auto use with this receiver. WLA is including the bolt extension piece that is to be welded on as a part of the semi-auto conversion of the bolt.

The specifics of the semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 receiver section that you can buy here are as follows:
The steel used is .105 thickness.
The semi-auto blocking features are already solidly welded into place.
It is the full length to reach from behind the rear sight to the buttstock/buffer.
The buttstock locking cams are installed and machined.
The bolt guide rail rivet holes are located and drilled.
The completed machining on the receiver includes the ejection port, fire control group opening, feed tray opening, bolt camming piece openings, recuperator tube mounting holes and the slot for the bolt cocking slide/handle.
Included with the purchase is the long rivet for the bolt camming piece, the short rivets for the bolt guide rails, the semi-auto bolt extension piece, and the cocking slide ratchet plate (this is not installed by WLA as prior to installation it has to be fitted to the cocking slide that is included in your part set )

Price for a receiver section in the white is $850 plus shipping .
Price for a receiver section hot blued (as shown in the attached images) is $900 plus shipping.
Add a barrel bushing repair sleeve for $125.
Texas residents add sales tax to the above listed prices.

Please do not PM me here for sales order forms or additional information.
Please do contact me at:
sales@wlarms.com
From that e-mail account I can supply the form to be FAXed in with your FFL and payment info.

Thank you,
Richard C. Hamer
Factory Representative,
Wise Lite Arms, Texas
Class II Manufacturer
07 FFL SOT
FAX: (940) 433-8096
Sales: sales@wlarms.com
Information: info@wlarms.com

Edited to add "section" where required to clarify only the rear 1/2 of the receiver is for sale.

I am adding images of the M53 bolt modified with our extension (machining completed after welding). I have included an image showing the M53 receiver with the feedtray, grip, topcover, butt and other external metal parts installed.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 receivers from Wise Lite Arms

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:11 am
by Pirate
Most excellent!! this will make a semi build a peice of cake! with only 2 easy welds it will make finishing a receiver a lot easier.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:36 am
by wiselitearms
I was reading the other thread about these receivers and remembered there is one important piece of information I forgot to include:

*Not available for sale in NJ, MA, NY, CA, CT or where prohibited by law*

Now I also see that someone (Not WLA) edited my advert and placed the word "Section" throughout the post. These are an FFL item, and will be transferred as a receiver. That is what they listed as in our books. That is what you should see entered on the 4473.
I included photo's and text so that any interested party could see what they were purchasing and know that the front barrel jacket from a part set would be required to complete the firearm.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:17 am
by Gene
Why are they not for sale in MA? I own a BRP semi MG42, a TNW semi 34, part sets for both and various other HI-cap firearms.

Thanks

Gene

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:30 am
by Embalmer
Exactly what ive been trying to figure out. Only thing we CANT have are new made hi cap mags (original pre AWB ok), few rifles in certain configurations, and certain pistols that the AG deems "safe" IAW :mrgreen: . Pistols are the only real heavily regulated item we possess. Solong as the person has a class A or B license hi cap rifles are possessable by anyone here.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:55 pm
by wiselitearms
The sale of the receivers has to follow certain prescribed parameters.
The restrictions on the sale of the completed firearm have to be adhered to in regards to the sale of completed receivers.
Sometimes we don't make the rules, but still have to follow them.

Regards,
Richard C. Hamer

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:55 pm
by BELTLEAD
Brian from BRP Corp. told me his semi-auto MG42 is legal in NJ as long as the flash hider cone is cut off the booster.I also saw a TNW MG34 sold thru a local NJ gunshop about 4 years ago.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:59 pm
by BELTLEAD
I forgot to mention that I spoke with Dave Michaels from Sarco,and he told me the semi-auto Bren and 1919 are available is NJ as long as the flash hider is removed.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:50 am
by tomcatshaas
Can we get a picture of what and where the required markings are going to look like? ie. SN and manufacture. It would be nice if this info was on the bottom and not on the side if
some of us would like to make a replica of an original looking MG42.

TC

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:31 am
by Cpt_Kirks
tomcatshaas wrote:Can we get a picture of what and where the required markings are going to look like? ie. SN and manufacture. It would be nice if this info was on the bottom and not on the side if
some of us would like to make a replica of an original looking MG42.

TC
AND, can they be ordered with custom markings? That would ROCK! I have some people on my list that are looking for certain markings.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:56 pm
by Bil
There is a company on the site,I think it is called 'Orion' ,that does custom engraving.I am sure he could put on whatever you wanted. ---bil

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:59 pm
by weasel_master
Bil wrote:There is a company on the site,I think it is called 'Orion' ,that does custom engraving.I am sure he could put on whatever you wanted. ---bil
Orion Arms out of Minneapolis area I believe.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:19 pm
by Cpt_Kirks
Bil wrote:There is a company on the site,I think it is called 'Orion' ,that does custom engraving.I am sure he could put on whatever you wanted. ---bil
I think I sold him a nice three cut a few months ago.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:57 pm
by Traveler57
Gene wrote:Why are they not for sale in MA? I own a BRP semi MG42, a TNW semi 34, part sets for both and various other HI-cap firearms.

This receiver and the completed M53 are both fully legal in Mass. (But, yes, there is still the no-flash hider law here for "new" firearms.) The primary restrictions in MA are on "AG unapproved" handguns and new magazines, like was mentioned. But with the proper license, which I have, I can own any semi-auto firearm, including the M53, 1919, etc.

It is a common misconception problem due to our idiot AG that confuses all the out-of-state folks. But, I assume that WLA, like a lot of other suppliers, simply doesn't want to deal with the hassle of MA, or read the actual MA laws, so they just put in the "no sales to MA" clause. This is common for ammo too, but, yes, ammo can be sold and shipped to MA. But to be fair, there a lot of gun shops in MA that don't know the law either, so they are usually unwilling to do the FFL transfer for recievers and "scary" M53s. But, there are also some good shops that do know the actual law, which are the ones that I use.

Not fair at all, to us stuck in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts. But again, for the companies that "think" the hassle for sales here is not worth the money, I simply buy elsewhere.

Richard, I am sorry that you won't sell your products here. I guess I will be buying my parts elsewhere. But I do understand why a lot of people are afraid of our AG. Think of Kennedy and Kerry and you have an idea of the culture of MA.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:44 am
by wiselitearms
Let me try and answer some of these questions:
To clarify what I stated in a previous post.
"The sale of the receivers has to follow certain prescribed parameters.
The restrictions on the sale of the completed firearm have to be adhered to in regards to the sale of completed receivers."

Just as the permission to sell these receivers was something we repeatedly asked for, there was guidance that came along with the "go-ahead".
Remember we are manufacturing the firearm as a program for a commercial customer. They won't want us to sell receivers in states where they won't sell the firearm. We had a long uphill battle to just get to the point of being allowed to sell these receivers at all! Look at the old posts and see how many months ago Tony first thought we could make these available.
"Sometimes we don't make the rules, but still have to follow them."

About receiver markings. The guidance we received from BATFE FTB stated that as soon as we started any welding or machining operations on our un-finished receiver halves they were to be considered a firearm/receiver. Because of this we pair up the halves and engrave the BATFE prescribed markings just prior to the first machining operations. If you look at the posted image of receivers in one of our CNC workcenters you can see the "Wise Lite Arms" engraved on the left side rear of the receiver. All the receivers we have available to sell are marked in this manner. Marking on the bottom may be possible in the future, however, keep in mind that welding has to occur in that area and we can't risk obliterating the marking during the clean-up of the weld. Tony says he will try to see what can be done after all the current inventory is sold.
I don't think we can offer any sort of custom markings as that would have to be programmed, and we simply don't have the time!

Hope that covers all the current questions.
Now if someone would just post their efforts/results using one of the receivers they have purchased...

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:22 am
by Abominog
I don't get it.

Why would WLA only sell to Century-approved states? Does WLA have some sort of agreement, besides the OEM, to this effect? It strikes me that it would make the best sense to sell the reciever to states that Century won't sell to- those who cannot buy a complete Century M53 would be more inclined to build their own. For example, the WLA receiver is legal in NY and MA, and probably others.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:27 pm
by smokinggun
Because Century gave Wise lite the approval in the first place. Its Centurys product and they set the ground rules under there policy.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:52 pm
by Traveler57
I meant no disrespect to WLA. I just wanted to point out that it is WLA and CA that have chosen not to sell in MA, and that there is no law against selling their products in MA. And this is what WLA is saying about their agreement with CA. Unfortunately, every supplier has the choice to sell or not sell to just about anyone.

As I am a politically active gun owner in MA, I just don't want common mis-information about non-existant gun laws to get out of hand when it comes to my builds of semi-autos.

And yes, your receiver pieces look fantastic.

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:01 pm
by Bil
So-if someone in Massachusetts really wants one of these,can they go to a state where it is legal and get one? And bring it home to Massachusetts? As long as it goes through a FFL? I am not trying to get around anything,I am merely curious as to how this works with a company not doing business in a state,but their product is legal.I do understand the companys stance,they are trying to stay away from states that are trouble. ---bil

Re: F/S: Semi-auto Yugo M53/MG42 rear receivers from Wise Lite

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:36 pm
by Cpt_Kirks
Bil wrote:So-if someone in Massachusetts really wants one of these,can they go to a state where it is legal and get one? And bring it home to Massachusetts? As long as it goes through a FFL? I am not trying to get around anything,I am merely curious as to how this works with a company not doing business in a state,but their product is legal.I do understand the companys stance,they are trying to stay away from states that are trouble. ---bil
The legal way would be to have somebody buy one in another state by way of their FFL holder, then sell it to the MA person by way of the MA person's FFL holder.

All legal and no "straw purchase".