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Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:33 am
by tomcatshaas
Has anyone run this in there 42's or 34's yet? It's being called M75 Sniper ammo. I'm just wondering what is the max grain the MG's can handle. I have not researched this yet. I'm wondering what the o.a.l. of this round is too.
TC
Re: Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:17 pm
by m2ball
TC,
It has a 198 grain bullet. All German rounds in WWII were 198 grains. This stuff should work the same as the 1950's -70's Yugo, albeit more $$
Re: Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:04 pm
by DARIVS ARCHITECTVS
How does it compare to Romanian 1970's 8mm?
Re: Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:18 pm
by tomcatshaas
m2ball wrote:TC,
It has a 198 grain bullet. All German rounds in WWII were 198 grains. This stuff should work the same as the 1950's -70's Yugo, albeit more $$
Thanks ! Like I said, I didn't really research it before I asked. I didn't realize that they were all 198. I think I may pick some up local. It's around .35 cents a round. I'm getting worried. I'm down to 6500 rounds of romy
TC
Re: Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:15 pm
by m2ball
TC,
I would look for Portugese with the headstamp FNM. It sells for .29 a round and it's great. I just bought a tin of Romanian for $70. It's still out there-at gun shows. I also bought 4,000 rounds of 1953 Turk at .09. Runs great in the 34.
Re: Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:50 pm
by weasel_master
I've got a friend with a bunch of Turk he is wanting to get rid of. I'm apprehensive about getting it though as it has a bad rep.
Re: Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:16 pm
by DARIVS ARCHITECTVS
If you want to use the Turk 8mm, ONLY use it in bolt action rifles. It's overcharged. It damaged my MG-42. It makes the barrel recoil too far back, such that the barrel locking piece slams into the camming piece cams. After many thousand rounds, the front appendages of the cams break clean off. It does not appear to affect firing in many cases, but breaking parts that the gun depends on for correct lockup and safety CAN'T be good. Plus, replacing those waffenmarked original parts cost me some bucks. Lesson learned. Trying to save a few pennies per round (at 3.4 cents per round) almost cost me ruining an all original $45,000 gun permanently. Use overcharged ammo intended for bolt action rifles ONLY in bolt action rifles. The stuff works okay in my low cost Yugoslavian M48a Mauser, or a beater RC k98, and yes, in a Turk T38 long mauser. Right tool for the right job. Save the Romy and Yugo ammo for the MG's, and when Bob Naess makes a recommendation regarding ammo use in the MG-42, listen.
Re: Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:39 am
by tomcatshaas
couldn't you remedy this by adjusting the opening size of the booster ?
TC
Re: Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:58 am
by m2ball
I have run thousands of rounds of turk through my semi MG34 without problems. I have had some split cases with Yugo '50's, but it did not affect the gun or function. I can see that there might be a problem in a FA MG42 with a high rate of fire. Big difference between a FA and a semi.
Re: Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:12 am
by DARIVS ARCHITECTVS
tomcatshaas wrote:couldn't you remedy this by adjusting the opening size of the booster ?
TC
I do not think so, TC. The Turk rounds are pretty powerful, and it is my belief that that power would require the recoil booster screw adjustment to be placed outside it's possible range. You could not adjust it far enough out to reduce the recoil to the correct level. I could be wrong here, because I have not experimented be adjusting the recoil booster and taken measurements of recoil distance during firing. I am just guessing from experience. Now, if you change the recoil booster orifice size, you could potentially make a recoil booster specifically designed for Turk loads.
In addition, some Turk rounds are not CONSISTENTLY loaded. If the recoil booster was adjusted to compensate for the high power of the Turk rounds, the frequent low power round you encounter would cause a stoppage. The higher velocity of Turk rounds also seems to wear the rifling out faster in my experience.
Re: Yugo 8mm 198-gr. full metal jacket new on the market 1990's
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:35 am
by tomcatshaas
DARIVS ARCHITECTVS wrote:tomcatshaas wrote:couldn't you remedy this by adjusting the opening size of the booster ?
TC
I do not think so, TC. The Turk rounds are pretty powerful, and it is my belief that that power would require the recoil booster screw adjustment to be placed outside it's possible range. You could not adjust it far enough out to reduce the recoil to the correct level. I could be wrong here, because I have not experimented be adjusting the recoil booster and taken measurements of recoil distance during firing. I am just guessing from experience. Now, if you change the recoil booster orifice size, you could potentially make a recoil booster specifically designed for Turk loads.
In addition, some Turk rounds are not CONSISTENTLY loaded. If the recoil booster was adjusted to compensate for the high power of the Turk rounds, the frequent low power round you encounter would cause a stoppage. The higher velocity of Turk rounds also seems to wear the rifling out faster in my experience.
HeHe....you said orifice. That's what I ment when I said adjusting the opening size of the booster. You would have to sacrifice a booster by drilling it out.
TC