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Every 34 needs one of these.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:15 pm
by Damien Horn
This is the view from inside and outside of the of the MG defence room of a German bunker. During the German Occupation an MG.34 would have been mounted on a table mount and have just poked out of the opening. Today all that is left is the opening. The wooden surround has been replaced, but originally the wooden was intended to soak up all incoming bullets and prevent it from ricocheting around. This bunker originally had a 10.5cm cannon as its main weapon which covered part of St.Ouen's Bay in Jersey. The MG.34 was the weapon used at the entrance defence.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:20 pm
by tomcatshaas
I want it :mrgreen: How much is shipping to the USA? GTS


Very nice. thanks for sharing Damien

TC

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:55 pm
by DARIVS ARCHITECTVS
It costs 25 hitlets. Pay up, TC.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:27 pm
by Bil
snow fare,DA ---bil

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:53 pm
by Ed S
Well, I don't have the table type fortress mount, but I do have the other kind:

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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:40 pm
by BELTLEAD
Wow! That's cool looking Ed! Do you have a tank MG34 ball mount also?

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:22 pm
by Ed S
BELTLEAD wrote:Wow! That's cool looking Ed! Do you have a tank MG34 ball mount also?

No. But I'm looking :D

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:24 am
by Damien Horn
Hi Ed,
I had one of those lumps until recently. It came from a bunker just down the road from where I lived at the time. It was still in its original paint finish and was complete with its frontal shields. I also had the searchlight attachment that fitted into the loop hole as well.
A big heavy lump, which for ease was mounted onto a specially made 4 wheeled frame so it could be pushed around in the garage and kept out of the way of the wife.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:05 am
by Ed S
Damien, somewhere along the way I found pictures of the mount you had and it was beautiful. A little rusty here and there, but in all original condition with accessories. It was fantastic. Mine had some type of blue paint poured on it at one time and some of the parts were bare metal and rusty. I am also missing one critical part: the clamp that serves as a soft mount and holds the gun to the mount. If you come across one please let me know

Ed

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:36 pm
by Demontrooper
Ok, that fortress mount is really cool. I did not know that they had wood there. In video games it is made of concrete.

Now, as for these other things, that thing that Ed has, wtf is that?! It looks so damned cool, but what the hell? Post war? Anybody have pics of these in use on the field? How much? Interchangeable with the '42?

Ha ha, cool stuff guys!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:38 pm
by Damien Horn
Hi,
The mount that Ed has came from a Sechsschartenturm. We had a number of them here on Jersey during the war. Basically it was a 6 loop holed turret in which 2 of these mounts with 34's on would be housed. I sold my mount a while back, it was a little more complete than Ed's and had local connections. I ran out of space so it had to go. But the $18,000 I got for it bought me some other very nice kit. The turrets that we have left here now only survived because they were inaccessable and the scrap men could not get the cutting kit to them.
I will endevour to get you pictures from one of the remaining turrets so you can see what it looked like.
D.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:52 pm
by Bil
There is also a very good book in the Osprey Fortress series.Titled'The channel Islands 1941-1945. I got this when Damien started posting,and I also got a good map of the Islands.It is nice to see something he posts,and then see exactly where it is he is talking about. ---bil

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:01 pm
by Damien Horn
Found these on file. Not here on the Island but interesting none the less.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:20 pm
by RaccoonRough
I would be very interested in seeing more pictures Damien when you get around to posting them.

Thanks

RR

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:57 pm
by Ed S
RaccoonRough wrote:I would be very interested in seeing more pictures Damien when you get around to posting them.

Thanks

RR
Here's one pic of the mount Damien had:

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I think this is a type of "table mount" that was referred to in the initial post:

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And this is the type that I have:

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Same type, but with the top parts missing:


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I think this is in a restored bunker somewhere:

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This is not restored, and may be lost to history someday:



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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:06 pm
by Bil
Note also that these feed from the right! ---bil

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:27 pm
by Ed S
Bil wrote:Note also that these feed from the right! ---bil

Yes, it is one of the reasons the 34 continued in production after the introduction of the 42. The 42 was left hand feed only and the method of changing barrels would not allow for its use in loop hole mounts.

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:31 pm
by Demontrooper
Fascinating! I am so delighted; this is like a whole new bit of Axis military history that I have never explored! And that you guys actually have chunks of bunkers ha ha....

I have one more question; where is "Jersey"? Is there a Jersey in Europe somewhere, or are you talking about here in the states? And is there only one of these bunkers in Jersey?

Also, have any of you mounted one of these onto your house :D . I would use one to replace the little motion activated lights on my driveway. Ha ha...

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:46 pm
by Bil
Jersey is one of the Channel Islands,there are5 of them.They belong to Britian,and are located west of the Cherbourg peninsula.They became part of Britain in 1066. They are-Geurnsey,Jersey,Sark,Herm,and Alderney.They were taken over by the Germans after they over-ran France,and were heavily fortified.They served as an early warning system for the Luftwaffe.They are covered with the remains of fortified positions,and big radar installations The Germans there surrendered at the end of the war.It is a beautiful area,Damien is lucky to live there. ---bil

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:08 pm
by RaccoonRough
Yes.........thank you so very much. The photos are so neat. I thank you both for aquiring them and keeping them intact. It hurts me to see the one that is so rusted.....why would someone not take better care of it.

Thanks again.

RR